In about two weeks, the seedlings should start showing. Tobacco leaves are ready for smoking or storage when theyre brown and pliable, but not too brittle. The ageing and compression are important as fermentation by anaerobic bacteria eliminates the harsher burning elements. This article could not be written any better! Having my first try at it and given I'm in the far north east of Scotland I'm having quite good results so far, that said been an unusually good Sumer. The Old Firm (author) from Waikato/Bay Of Plenty, New Zealand on September 16, 2014: Hi tobacco enthusiast, glad to know that I was of help. Remember that smoking tobacco probably would not have caught on if it weren't for the process of cramming it into barrels and sending it on a sea voyage in sailing ships - which is how the above process was discovered. I borrowed from the butchering industry and got a bunch of J fish hooks, strung them on some fishing line and use that for drying. Put it in a pipe and it smoked fine. We seem to be in the perfect climate. Reply Some leaves are 500-600mm in length and still rather green. Cover the soil with newspaper or a bit of cardboard to keep it damp. It says it can be used for fermentation. The best vessel to use for aging pipe tobacco is the Mason Jar. This is a cheap and accessible possibility to achieve the conditions required for fermentation. Within a few hours the sun begins to bleach it. Once this is done I remove it from its leaf stems. If so how do we do it? So, fermentation, do it if you want to, you may like the flavour better, you may not, I don't think that it matters a damn' for health and safety. The ribs are easy to remove at that point. The Old Firm (author) from Waikato/Bay Of Plenty, New Zealand on September 11, 2014: Great stuff John, (We're in for a long summer, my banana plant set its first bunch a month ago, although the stalks are still all brown with dead and wind battered leaves; and the raspberry canes are budding) Please keep us posted on how you're going. Did you make this project? A factory barn with hundreds of thousands of hands fermenting, wellthat would be a whole different level of aroma.Q: Surf Monkey Coconut, your insurance agent called me looking for you. Notice the orange ring in the image below. It depends on what you want the tobacco for. Tho it is now. - "Keep it simple, and if it works don't fix it!" You are using an out of date browser. Then he fed the leaves through a grinder. Many thanks. Here in New Zealand, you can buy tobacco seed, grow the stuff, and, if you want to, smoke it quite lawfully. I am currently smoking the 2018 crop which was over 5.5Kg. Anyway, just wanted to say your article has been very helpful not to mention giving me a great laugh here and there. He then filled about 1/6 of the cylinder with water and propped the leaves up on another piece of aluminium with a small vent hole in it. Well heres hoping! Ricci Feat Waaka from Tauranga, New Zealand on June 07, 2014: Hi can you please give me some advice on how to grow tobacco under lights,such as how many plants to a 1000 watt or 600 grow light in what size room,am really keen to give it a go. (I could spare the bullfrogs.). From a broader perspective, there are a few variables that influence how tobacco ages. Answer: It would probably enhance the product but I don't bother and nor do most of the locals that I know. Re-pot them a couple of times, use you hot-house when they get bigger and you can grow them there or transplant in spring. If you're limited in space, plant as many as you can. Question We are happy campers even though we haven't grown it yet. This is the kind of info ive been searching for. Answer: The best time is November, give or take, but January's fine for a later crop. I could not tho do that on a dozen or so plants. When using plastic bag style do you move them around and how often do you water with the plastic bag style. Otherwise, just bite the bullet and buy an extra box of matches. There are several ways to ferment at home. Like some others I came upon your article whilst looking for info on curing tobacco. Hanging Tobacco Leaves for Drying 1 Dry tobacco in the fall for the best results. Im wanting either a mild hazlenut or chocolate flavor. I have been advised that I must ferment to improve the flavour, but more importantly to remove the ammonia which is pretty bad for you. You get the picture. Answer: I've never bothered fermenting, and nor have any of my friends. Very refreshing to be able to find the simple info you want without having read heaps of seriously boring rubbish at the same time!! This is a brilliant step-by-step on how to get to the end product I'm looking for so thanks so much mate! I then start fermentation I do this in a burco boiler. If the leaves get too brittle, you can moisten them with water from a spray bottle. Don't humidify kiln to prevent rusty lids. One dampens and presses the leaves for a few days (in a shallow tray with a board and a weight on top) then rolls up the leaves like a newspaper roll, and slices thin rings off it which are then cut cross-ways for cigarette tobacco. Hi guys. Is there a big difference in letting the leaves age? Almost magically, theyll regain their pliability with a little moisture. I didn't realize you had all these messages! If it's too rainy or it gets too much water, the tobacco gets weak and thin. Fermentation also stabilizes the leaf so that it doesn't decompose further in storage. Fire curing produces a tobacco low in sugar and high in nicotine. Commercially it used to have saltpeter (potassium nitrate) added to keep it going, although I don't know what's used now. Some years ago I stumbled upon tobacco seeds (for the first time) in a Richters plant/seed catalogue out of Canada ( I live in the U.S). After drying the leaf, should it be re-hydrated or something. Its been about 6-8 weeks of drying. I suggest that you let only one of your plants go to flower for seeds for next season's crop. It's fine to jar bulk tobacco; it will resume fermentation. Im growing in mini greenhouses in a south facing window. Temps above 122F (50C) inhibit the vegetative growth of mold. I grow over 100 + plants - mainly in pots but some in the ground. They'll need temperatures of 75 to 80F to germinate. Simply hang in a sheltered area and let nature take its course. Question: My tobacco leaves have been hanging for around 3 months, the tips seem to keep going brittle so I have misted them with water as they have become brittle again, is this method ok? How broad it can be. The best temperatures for growing tobacco is 68 to 86 F (20 to 30 C). It does thrive in rich, well-draining soils, but it'll make do with what it gets. Havana tobacco seeds are good for making cigars, particularity cigar wrappers because of the broad leaves, flavor and smooth appearances once cured. Also slugs & snails, etc take their share. Question: My tobacco is too strong. 7 years ago Question: Is it worth continuing to harvest the leaves after the tobacco plant has flowered? There are other ways to grow tobacco and other ways to cure the stuff. Question: Can I make alcohol from tobacco leaves? Most strains, though, will be good enough to smoke after two-three weeks, but the longer you leave the buds to cure, the better - four to eight weeks may be the optimal time. Was going to make a wooden box but this was easier as I had the bits. Buuut, it is still good to note the same surgeon general warning that "smoking is bad for your health", etc. If you're in NZ get growing folks , and good luck. Question: Is planting tobacco summer (start of January) ok? Remember these are monstrous plants that are supposed to reach 7' tall, if you can provide a minimum 5 gallon pot, lots of full direct sun and water, your plants will flourish! Anyine got pointers on aging? On the tobacco front. If parts of the leaf remain green, it has dried too fast. Store the tobacco in a room between 60 to 95 F (16 to 35 C) to cure it. He constantly kept preaching about this. i plant them in the ground so i achieve maximum height. . I assume that you're in the northern hemisphere, which means that you are in late Autumn, so I suggest that you pick the leaves and hang them to dry. Put tobacco in jar. 3D Printed Futuristic Space Age Wall Clock. Make sure the leaves are not touching each other, the walls, or the floor. But to me, all of these smells were delicious!! Tobacco does grow like crazy once it gets going, about 3 months from seedling to 7 ft plant even in my temperate climate in Summer. Built a box frame 2'6" sq. Fire-cured tobacco is hung in large barns where fires of hardwoods are kept on continuous or intermittent low smoulder and takes between three days and ten weeks, depending on the process and the tobacco. After fermentation (kilning), tobacco aroma and taste may change significantly over a few days, with noticeable change becoming more subtle after that. Just thought i'ld let you know the 'head start' theory appeared to work. The ultra dry leaves sucked up the alcohol (not too much or u get a soggy mess) and became pliable again. My tobacco does not smell like tobacco at all. I don't really monitor the humidity too much, I just give it 15-20 distilled water misting on and between the hands about 2-3 times a day, just to keep the leaves semi-moist. You could also try spraying with a mister (one of those cheap mist sprayers that you can get from garden supply shops) Just remember that you want the leaves to dry, not go mouldy. Have you tried this method? This is better for cigars and pipe tobacco. Thanks. What I can find worryingly little information on is how long you need to ferment it for, depending on what you want to do with it. The Old Firm (author) from Waikato/Bay Of Plenty, New Zealand on October 21, 2015: Hi Guys (and Gals) sorry that I've been AWOL for a while. Jars can also be an alternative to cellaring in the tin. Also does anyone know how to make Copenhagen style "dip"? I personally didn't run into any problems, but this set up is risky and definitely not UL rated . Aging and curing tobacco helps the leaves get rid of their herby flavor and makes them taste more desirable. Make sure kiln has good air circulation and that jars aren't touching walls to prevent condensation in jars. Dedicated home growers use old refrigerators with a heat source. Regarding smoking the tobacco though, cigarette and pipe tobacco available commercially is a bit "moist" and pliable. . Anyway that is soo cool. Once the tobacco is dry to my liking or touch. I had trouble with the whole drying/curing process though. For tobacco, the curing process is similar to the standard drying process of cannabis. I've had some specific varieties that were not particularly good until 18 months, In theory, could I just chuck my jars in say the hot water cupboard? The best temperatures for growing tobacco is 68 to 86 F (20 to 30 C). I smoke about 50grm/week -say 1 3/4 oz/week. Reactions: Oldfella, Charly, Knucklehead and 1 other person S Smileysmile66 Active Member Joined Apr 5, 2019 Messages 25 Points 3 Location Stockholm, Sweden Then proceed in one of the following ways: Further up the page, I suggested that you let one plant flower for seed. When I think of ammonia, I think of a sharp biting smell, the chemical smell from either a bottle of windex or urine..(I once had mice as pets, which had that horrible smell) When I was researching tobacco fermentation I pictured those fermentation barns in central America to be awful, perhaps like walking into a tear gas chamberTaking this into consideration I have my fermentation cooler in an unused bathroom which has the ceiling vent on a timer (it turns on for 10 mins every hour). They'll turn dark brown and eventually start to split. Keep their soil moist but not soggy when they're young. Very educational. Answer: Curing tobacco is pretty much just letting it dry until it turns goldish. As for the number of plants to be self-sufficient in Baccy for my pipe? 1 & a half tablespoons liqueur or spirit syrup (Bin Inn). I better still be alive for the first finished product lol. Been reading your posts looking to find ways to make what i grow less harsh to smoke. I suppose most guys go 1 to 2 months, but my philosophy is, if it's not on fire in my pipe, why bother taking it out of the kiln. The Old Firm (author) from Waikato/Bay Of Plenty, New Zealand on July 17, 2018: Try misting the dried leaves with a mixture of oil of cloves (from the chemist) and water. Put tobacco in jar. The Arena Media Brands, LLC and respective content providers to this website may receive compensation for some links to products and services on this website. Reckon next year I will have to double my crop, I may be a bit shy this year. Fill your curing jars 75% full. The Old Firm (author) from Waikato/Bay Of Plenty, New Zealand on July 30, 2014: Drying- Three months will do it, less if you give a bit of a boost with a slightly warm oven. Question: My tobacco keeps going brittle while its being hung, it looks ready colour wise and want to cut up and pack it but is far to brittle, how can I get to the right texture (not brittle)? I've found this setup makes the temperature get much too high, (due to the excellent insulation of the cooler, the cooler gets cumulatively hotter and hotter). I have the space/patience/whole leaf to be able to grow enough each season for a couple of years, and am happy to just store it away for a few years before reaching for it. Also, in the images above you can see the vent holes I cut in the top and bottom of the coolerI have since plugged them up to hold in the humiditythere was too much ventilation going on. Email Us | (888)366-0345 Account Login Create Account. Question: How can I get the right smell and taste for my homegrown tobacco? That being said it is taxing to spray the leaves so often. -Air cured Tobacco leaves, Seeds with growing instructions are available here : Havana tobacco seeds are good for making cigars, particularity cigar wrappers because of the broad leaves, flavor and smooth appearances once cured. Is that a constant 50c or would it be averaged over a 3day or so cycle? Turn the marijuana every few hours, so that all parts are exposed to the sun. If it's too rainy or it gets too much water, the tobacco gets weak and thin. On the plus side: Home grown tobacco contains far less chemicals and no additives when compared to the stuff the tobacco industry produces. Some people even use a microwave for a brief zap, but I've never tried it so I can't advise. Answer: An airtight container's a good idea, but I can't tell you how long the tobacco will last. Tobacco plants nearing maturity. Answer: I know people that have done both, so it's really up to you which is handiest, I don't think that it makes much difference to the end product. The Old Firm (author) from Waikato/Bay Of Plenty, New Zealand on March 31, 2014: Hi there Blond Logic, Tobacco originated from around your way, and I'm told that all sorts can be found there, so good luck in your quest for seeds. This article is not about health issues; it's about growing tobacco and curing it. to cut: take dried leaves cut out stems, dampen dried leaves, put in press to make solid block, cut and re-dry cut tobacco. And the other thing is that I 'm in Canada. The Old Firm (author) from Waikato/Bay Of Plenty, New Zealand on February 17, 2015: No I haven't tried that. When the flowers die off each will form a green pod which will slowly turn dark brown. I do not recommend that anyone follow this procedure, please use discretion with the project. You will also have healthier, more mature/thicker leaves that will respond better to air curing and fermentationa little more meat to chew so-to-speak. Question: Im having a hard time keeping my tobacco burning, could it just need more time? Did you dry indoors? Mine are not as tall as yours - max about 4 foot. 12.5% cure for between 3 weeks and 11 weeks. Although I may not be identifying the ammonia as released from tobacco leaves correctly. So plenty in hand. Best If You Have Several Strains to Cure or Store At Once: Set of Four Wide-Mouth Quart-Size Ball Mason Jars Price: $24.85 Amazon Customer Reviews Curing is basically the drying of tobacco in a moderately controlled environment. Question: How long are you supposed to cure tobacco for? I hope that you learned what you wanted from this article. Drying tobacco is a kind of curing process that takes between 3 and 8 weeks to properly prepare the tobacco for use. In my past experience as well as experiences in this fermenter, insulating foam is for the most part stable and inert; It won't off-gas unless it is melting. You don't mention this stage, what are your thoughts on fermentation? Thanks for sharing! since taking the pics, I have modified and refined the design making it even simplerive plugged the holes, and took out the aluminum foil, and put the second batch of leaves in a large plastic bag with a twist tie on the top to better hold in the moisture. By using this service, some information may be shared with YouTube. Fred Hanna has a method of quickly aging tobacco. What you do with it then is your own damned business. Also, I know they like sun but as were in the wrong season Ive put them in large pots in the greenhouse. You might try planting cabbage amongst the 'backy to deter the cabbage butterfly; I intend to this year. Put jar in kiln. i think il try the box with water in and a towel on top after iv dry the tobacco this year.. only using a heat pad. We have seeds. Some of my friends nuke the leaves and seem happy with the results, the only way to find out which best suits you is to try it yourself. Question: Im in the Wairarapa and just got some seedlings from the local garden centre. Hang the tobacco where the humidity is consistently around 65 percent. You may need to use a humidifier if your leaves are drying too quickly. Air curing works by hanging the leaves in a dark place for a few weeks. How do you know your tobacco will be ok for cigarettes, but not for cigars or vice versa? It seems dry but just doesnt want to stay lit when Ive rolled cigarettes. Answer: Give it a try, it certainly won't do any harm. This year i ordered from Victory Seeds and they have a much wider variety. at home depot, clamp assembly is not needed)-30W light bulb (heat source)-Aluminum foil-Clean paper towels-Plastic bag-Sterilized spray bottle (use bleach solution to clean, rinse and dry thoroughly)-Distilled water. Awesome article!!! If you do have problems, see your local nurseryman or talk to a friend who gardens. The rest are green and some of the bottom leaves that don't get much light are a yellowish color. Some say that it should be left hanging for two years, though I've found that two or three months is quite enough. You too can join the ranks of tobacco plant enthusiasts and with some luck and planning, your efforts may be rewarded with a homegrown cigar! I will be 76 next month and live in the UK. A lot of tobaccos's taste sweetens with salt - folks will mix maybe a 1/4 teaspon of salt in 8-10 ounces of distilled water, lay the tobacco out on a tray, mist it with the salty solution, allow to dry and then put it in the curing jars. Question: I was wondering if I can take some larger leaves from my plants before they turn a paler green as I have planted my plants to close together. The essential pieces for fermentation is 120 degree heat and humidity. Question: I am a cigar smoker and I often put my stubs in my wife's flower bed. Did this ever work to produce good cigars surf monkey ? After that I shredded them. That being said, lets get started! As good a way as any Rhett, nothings written in stone - adapt, innovate, do it on the cheap; that's what it's all about. I threw a hand at it but it didnt come out the way I hoped. It has been most helpful. Using the ones made for smoking, bleached, or with added chemicals is not ideal, to say the very least. 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